>> well, i think right now where you see romney-reince are ryan are in good -- romney-ryan are in good shape. romney now need to push ahead and forge ahead. he has to provide additional solutions. what reagan did down the stretch to win, he got more specifics. if romney it is on the lead and plays roosevelt like obama did in the last debate taking the punches and hoping he can emerge, that would be a big mistake. >> but if you say what you can do, that can bring in the attack, right, mayor brown? >> that is true but he has to do it. >> that didn't fuel the other side, but in this case it is really about whether or not the obama operation which was incredibly superior in 2008, the ground campaign by the obama operation was unbelievable. >> i remember that. >> if they can do that again it won't matter what romney does. it won't matter what message comes out. it will be that group of people that went from door to door, starting an ending in new york and winning for obama. >> if they continue to have this rally, teleprompter, fundraiser troops they have where it is all about money and tv,